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ben je gelovig? en waarom

Discussieer hier over jouw ideeën en leer weer van de ideeën van anderen.

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Postby Jennifer on Fri 10 Oct, 2003 21:01

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Postby Vince on Thu 16 Oct, 2003 17:35

Gutentag!

ik moest van SkateZ hier m'n knappe kop :D nog eens laten zien :-) ("er waren interessante geloofsdiscussies")

dus laat die discussie maar komen :-)

Ikzelf heb ook een afkeer tegen de Kerk als instituut. Dat kan ik zelfs zonder het Thomasevangelie verklaren, omdat hier nl. nergens iets over in de Bijbel staat.

Verder vind ik de tegenwoordige trend "in jezelf geloven, op weg gaan naar je binnenste ik, zoveel mogelijk zelfkennis opdoen" quatsch. Wat ben je daarmee als je dood bent?

God vraagt ook geen onmogelijke dingen van je. Kom je ergens waar ze laat ons zeggen rare rituelen (seksueel, geweld, in hogere sferen komen etc etc) houden dan kan je er bijna zeker van zijn dat God dit niet van je verwacht!

Ouders hebben de plicht om een levensbeschouwing mee te geven, anders krijg je een onevenwichtig kind.


En, Lookajli, jouw post vond 'k eigenlijk een vrij loos argument.Wat heeft de afgeleide van een tweedegraadsfunctie met geloof te maken? Waarom zou e=mc² niet gevonden zijn? Einstein geloofde steevast in 'iets meer' ! Newton was gelovig. En, we kunnen nu wel berekenen met welke constante versnelling we terugkomen naar de aarde als we springen, maar dat wil niet zeggen dat het niet God's idee kan geweest zijn...


De wet van nu is geenszins beter. Enkel God maakt mensen vrij!

En, Sfynx, na jouw post trek 'k de conclusie dat je nog nooit het geloof van dichtbij bekeken hebt...
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Postby Charly_lawson on Thu 16 Oct, 2003 18:35

Het is nochtans een 'denker' die voor de omschakeling heeft kunnen zorgen.
Door te zeggen dat de zintuigelijke werkelijkheid de enige werkelijkheid is en God helemaal almachtig te maken.
Een paar jaar later was 'de almachtige schepper' niet meer nodig, men begon de wereld eindelijk te begrijpen. (mechanisering)
(-^-Nominalisme)

Dat van 'jezelf willen begrijpen'.
Wat een onzin dat het quatsch zou zijn, het is mede hierdoor dat we het denkpatroon hebben kunnen vasteleggen van eeuwen antropologische wijsbegeerte. Mede hierdoor dat we nu rationeel denken, en mede hierdoor dat de theologie zelf een wetenschap is!

Opvoeding en levensbeschouwing zijn geen dingen die je zomaar kan meegeven, dat gaat vanzelf, je kan uiteraard wel je best doen maar dan nog kan je een averechts effect bekomen.

Alles wat ook maar zelfbewust, metafysisch onderlegt en zelfkritisch is wordt neegehaalt met absurde argumenten door pretentieuze fundamentalisten.
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Postby Charly_lawson on Thu 16 Oct, 2003 20:20

Als ik iets zo opvallend vind dan verwoord ik dat ook op die manier, dat je daar niet van houdt of dat als een aanval opneemt is ieder zijn probleem.
Ik zal mn modder even in een mooie vorm gieten:

-Een vd grootste resultaten van de mens, het vermogen om over zichzelf na te denken, heeft men aan reflectisch zelfonderzoek kunnen onderwerpen. En jij noemt dat quatsch! Het lijkt me niet meer dan logisch dat dit de laatste jaren hét issue is.
-Het ingewikkelde proces van opvoeding plaats jij onder de noemer 'afhankelijk van levensbeschouwing, indien niet: kind onstabiel'

Dat is niet alleen erg absurd, het neigt zelfs naar een beetje pretentie als ik dat zou mogen durven zeggen (dit is gram. ongepast)

En:

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